http://www.mark.org.il/index.php/2008/02/05/palestinians-whine-about-suicide-bomber-shooting/

i'd definitely shoot him

If he was still capable of harming more people at that time then yeah

Yes, definately.

I would let someone shooot him. not me though. HE DID want to die anyway.
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Calling the officer's act as 'inhumane' is pretty dumb, he didn't do anything inherently wrong given the situation I think.

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it is inhumane he is a damn office, there are laws that do not lower us to their standards which is being a murderer...


there was a "terrorist" who took a bus hostage, he gets out of the bus with a hostage; an office runs up to him and takes a shot at point blank range, if he got any closer he would be touching his face, but he misses... in the shoot out he kills the hostage, when the police arrest him they kill him by suffocating him. do you think that is right or wrong? it is the same situation.


this was a documentary on HBO, I forgot the name, all I know was all the people they interviewed had annoying accents and were ugly as fuck..

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Not enough information depending on the link. If the bomber was still capable of hurting others and attempting to then yeah, they're justified in shooting the guy. If he was too wounded to do anything though then whoever shot him should be brought up on murder charges.
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This all requires assumptions from what very little we know, but it sounds like shooting him was straight up murder.

"3. The second was injured, probably by the blast of the first charge.
4. After rescue forces arrived on scene, the wounded bomber was identified as such and was promptly shot by a police officer."

Rescue forces have been notified, and have arrived, and this guy hasn't detonated anything yet? And this guy is lying there injured? And rescue workers say, "hey, this injured guy has explosives," and police go up to him, and he still doesn't detonate anything, and they just execute him? It sounds very unlikely that there was any indication he was going to detonate any explosives.

If there's something we don't know, and it did look like he might set off his explosives, and if there were people in the area that had not yet been evacuated by rescue workers, then sure, shoot him. That seems kind of unlikely, but then again, we know next to nothing about the whole thing.
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The Officer who shot him should be considered a hero.

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this was a documentary on HBO, I forgot the name, all I know was all the people they interviewed had annoying accents and were ugly as fuck..

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a 5-year-old child could shoot a guy lying injured on the ground, how is that heroic? it's not like he knowingly put himself in danger either, he just noticed the guy had explosives on him and pulled the trigger
and if the guy was unconscious or incapacitated that makes the officer more of a murderer than a hero

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a 5-year-old child could shoot a guy lying injured on the ground, how is that heroic? it's not like he knowingly put himself in danger either, he just noticed the guy had explosives on him and pulled the trigger
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He is a hero for cleansing the gene pool. The guy had a fucking bomb strapped to his chest in an attempt to kill many innocent people. I don't give a shit what the circumstances of his death were. Anyone who rids this piece of shit from the earth is considered a hero in my eyes. Oh, and you're a fucking retard if you're not okay with a man who had a bomb strapped to his chest who was trying to kill innocent people was shot and killed.

And don't even fucking talk to me about his rights because he forfeited his rights the moment he strapped a bomb to his chest and intended to use it on innocent civilians.

Yeah, maybe he is a murderer but he is also a hero. And why the fuck are you bringing up a five year old child? Since when does age apply to heroism.

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a 5-year-old child could shoot a guy lying injured on the ground, how is that heroic? it's not like he knowingly put himself in danger either, he just noticed the guy had explosives on him and pulled the trigger
and if the guy was unconscious or incapacitated that makes the officer more of a murderer than a hero

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He is a hero for cleansing the gene pool. The guy had a fucking bomb strapped to his chest in an attempt to kill many innocent people. I don't give a shit what the circumstances of his death were. Anyone who rids this piece of shit from the earth is considered a hero in my eyes. Oh, and you're a fucking retard if you're not okay with a man who had a bomb strapped to his chest who was trying to kill innocent people was shot and killed.

And don't even fucking talk to me about his rights because he forfeited his rights the moment he strapped a bomb to his chest and intended to use it on innocent civilians.

Yeah, maybe he is a murderer but he is also a hero. And why the fuck are you bringing up a five year old child? Since when does age apply to heroism.

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I think killing him not only lowers his 'enemies' to his level but also accomplishes his goal for him of self sacrifice. Of course no one here is ok with the fact that he's a murderer. We have criminal laws for a reason and it's not really fair to pick and choose who it is that is subject to them.

edit: you're pretty idealistic for an atheist

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The Officer who shot him should be considered a hero.

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a 5-year-old child could shoot a guy lying injured on the ground, how is that heroic? it's not like he knowingly put himself in danger either, he just noticed the guy had explosives on him and pulled the trigger
and if the guy was unconscious or incapacitated that makes the officer more of a murderer than a hero

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He is a hero for cleansing the gene pool. The guy had a fucking bomb strapped to his chest in an attempt to kill many innocent people. I don't give a shit what the circumstances of his death were. Anyone who rids this piece of shit from the earth is considered a hero in my eyes. Oh, and you're a fucking retard if you're not okay with a man who had a bomb strapped to his chest who was trying to kill innocent people was shot and killed.

And don't even fucking talk to me about his rights because he forfeited his rights the moment he strapped a bomb to his chest and intended to use it on innocent civilians.

Yeah, maybe he is a murderer but he is also a hero. And why the fuck are you bringing up a five year old child? Since when does age apply to heroism.

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I think killing him not only lowers his 'enemies' to his level but also accomplishes his goal for him of self sacrifice. Of course no one here is ok with the fact that he's a murderer. We have criminal laws for a reason and it's not really fair to pick and choose who it is that is subject to them.

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you're a disgusting human being, kill yourself, thx

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The Officer who shot him should be considered a hero.

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a 5-year-old child could shoot a guy lying injured on the ground, how is that heroic? it's not like he knowingly put himself in danger either, he just noticed the guy had explosives on him and pulled the trigger
and if the guy was unconscious or incapacitated that makes the officer more of a murderer than a hero

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He is a hero for cleansing the gene pool. The guy had a fucking bomb strapped to his chest in an attempt to kill many innocent people. I don't give a shit what the circumstances of his death were. Anyone who rids this piece of shit from the earth is considered a hero in my eyes. Oh, and you're a fucking retard if you're not okay with a man who had a bomb strapped to his chest who was trying to kill innocent people was shot and killed.

And don't even fucking talk to me about his rights because he forfeited his rights the moment he strapped a bomb to his chest and intended to use it on innocent civilians.

Yeah, maybe he is a murderer but he is also a hero. And why the fuck are you bringing up a five year old child? Since when does age apply to heroism.

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I think killing him not only lowers his 'enemies' to his level but also accomplishes his goal for him of self sacrifice. Of course no one here is ok with the fact that he's a murderer. We have criminal laws for a reason and it's not really fair to pick and choose who it is that is subject to them.

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I don't care about his 'goal' for self sacrifice and whether or not that goal is accomplished.

"Lowering to the level of his enemies" is a matter of perspective and if you think that killing a man with a bomb strapped to his chest who is intended on using it is on the same page as the man who shot him and prevented this then you're clueless.

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The Officer who shot him should be considered a hero.

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a 5-year-old child could shoot a guy lying injured on the ground, how is that heroic? it's not like he knowingly put himself in danger either, he just noticed the guy had explosives on him and pulled the trigger
and if the guy was unconscious or incapacitated that makes the officer more of a murderer than a hero

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He is a hero for cleansing the gene pool. The guy had a fucking bomb strapped to his chest in an attempt to kill many innocent people. I don't give a shit what the circumstances of his death were. Anyone who rids this piece of shit from the earth is considered a hero in my eyes. Oh, and you're a fucking retard if you're not okay with a man who had a bomb strapped to his chest who was trying to kill innocent people was shot and killed.

And don't even fucking talk to me about his rights because he forfeited his rights the moment he strapped a bomb to his chest and intended to use it on innocent civilians.

Yeah, maybe he is a murderer but he is also a hero. And why the fuck are you bringing up a five year old child? Since when does age apply to heroism.

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I think killing him not only lowers his 'enemies' to his level but also accomplishes his goal for him of self sacrifice. Of course no one here is ok with the fact that he's a murderer. We have criminal laws for a reason and it's not really fair to pick and choose who it is that is subject to them.

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I don't care about his 'goal' for self sacrifice and whether or not that goal is accomplished.

"Lowering to the level of his enemies" is a matter of perspective and if you think that killing a man with a bomb strapped to his chest who is intended on using it is on the same page as the man who shot him and prevented this then you're clueless.

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Yes by all means shoot the man if the bomb is still a threat. If he was no longer a threat and the officer knew that and just acted out of frustration, that is when the act becomes unjust.

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The Officer who shot him should be considered a hero.

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a 5-year-old child could shoot a guy lying injured on the ground, how is that heroic? it's not like he knowingly put himself in danger either, he just noticed the guy had explosives on him and pulled the trigger
and if the guy was unconscious or incapacitated that makes the officer more of a murderer than a hero

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He is a hero for cleansing the gene pool. The guy had a fucking bomb strapped to his chest in an attempt to kill many innocent people. I don't give a shit what the circumstances of his death were. Anyone who rids this piece of shit from the earth is considered a hero in my eyes. Oh, and you're a fucking retard if you're not okay with a man who had a bomb strapped to his chest who was trying to kill innocent people was shot and killed.

And don't even fucking talk to me about his rights because he forfeited his rights the moment he strapped a bomb to his chest and intended to use it on innocent civilians.

Yeah, maybe he is a murderer but he is also a hero. And why the fuck are you bringing up a five year old child? Since when does age apply to heroism.

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I think killing him not only lowers his 'enemies' to his level but also accomplishes his goal for him of self sacrifice. Of course no one here is ok with the fact that he's a murderer. We have criminal laws for a reason and it's not really fair to pick and choose who it is that is subject to them.

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I don't care about his 'goal' for self sacrifice and whether or not that goal is accomplished.

"Lowering to the level of his enemies" is a matter of perspective and if you think that killing a man with a bomb strapped to his chest who is intended on using it is on the same page as the man who shot him and prevented this then you're clueless.

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Yes by all means shoot the man if the bomb is still a threat. If he was no longer a threat and the officer knew that and just acted out of frustration, that is when the act becomes unjust.

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Do you not understand that it would be virtually impossible for him to determine this? Even if the man was unconscious you don't think he could awake at any time? The only logical thing he could have done would be to end the threat completely by killing him. Even if there is a 1% chance that he could detonate the bomb then the logical thing to do would be to eliminate the threat.

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I am saying that this man was a threat at the time and if he had survived he would continue to be so yes I think the man that eliminated this threat is a hero. And yes, his death is cleansing the gene pool and I never retracted by statement on that. I just think it's funny when bleeding hearts like Blid and Ghostnuke come on here and pretend to actually care about what happened to this man when they really don't give a damn all the while trying to personify themselves as the left wing extremists that they consistently make themselves out to be (and I am a liberal but I'm not a fucking retard like some). Mackman and Eradicate constantly get ridiculed for being right wing extremists but guess what left wing extremists are equally as retarded.

given that they couldn't disarm or detain the man with the fact that no one would be expose to any more levels of harm... talk him out of it, any other sort of safety means to elimate the threat at the current scenario



are u guys serious? some1 shot a suicide
come on!! it's a suiciding bombing. he will kill himself, its sad to say, on the bombers part. this is a practice in their extreme fundalmentalistic way, but this is by no means the 1st time we've heard about a suicide bombing and are now actiing to be surprised by it.

2 guys where, there, one already set himself off killing a woman and injuring others. ya gonna give the next game who's in the same situation a chance to do the same? he has no right to take other down with him. If he's truly ready to die for his belief, than calmly pass away, its purely unnecessary to take others down too.

obviously try and save the man, talk to him, disarm him, but if realistically that'd cant be done there n then in that moment, haha i'd have to take him out before he takes me out and hurts others on his sinfully prideful beliefs.

he's already lost all self respect for himself, not because he is commiting suicide, but because he is still weak that he has to take unyeilding and innocent souls with him as they die by his beliefs, absolutely no chance would that fly on me.
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I am saying that this man was a threat at the time and if he had survived he would continue to be so yes I think the man that eliminated this threat is a hero. And yes, his death is cleansing the gene pool and I never retracted by statement on that. I just think it's funny when bleeding hearts like Blid and Ghostnuke come on here and pretend to actually care about what happened to this man when they really don't give a damn all the while trying to personify themselves as the left wing extremists that they consistently make themselves out to be (and I am a liberal but I'm not a fucking retard like some). Mackman and Eradicate constantly get ridiculed for being right wing extremists but guess what left wing extremists are equally as retarded.

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I am saying that this man was a threat at the time and if he had survived he would continue to be so yes I think the man that eliminated this threat is a hero. And yes, his death is cleansing the gene pool and I never retracted by statement on that. I just think it's funny when bleeding hearts like Blid and Ghostnuke come on here and pretend to actually care about what happened to this man when they really don't give a damn all the while trying to personify themselves as the left wing extremists that they consistently make themselves out to be (and I am a liberal but I'm not a fucking retard like some). Mackman and Eradicate constantly get ridiculed for being right wing extremists but guess what left wing extremists are equally as retarded.

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It's not being a left wing extremist to want due process, which is the only argument here really. A representative of the law shouldn't take judgment into his own hands when it comes to capital punishment.

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I am saying that this man was a threat at the time and if he had survived he would continue to be so yes I think the man that eliminated this threat is a hero. And yes, his death is cleansing the gene pool and I never retracted by statement on that. I just think it's funny when bleeding hearts like Blid and Ghostnuke come on here and pretend to actually care about what happened to this man when they really don't give a damn all the while trying to personify themselves as the left wing extremists that they consistently make themselves out to be (and I am a liberal but I'm not a fucking retard like some). Mackman and Eradicate constantly get ridiculed for being right wing extremists but guess what left wing extremists are equally as retarded.

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It's not being a left wing extremist to want due process, which is the only argument here really. A representative of the law shouldn't take judgment into his own hands when it comes to capital punishment.

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What due process? The man had a fucking bomb strapped to his chest. It's the representative of the laws JOB to take JUDGMENT into his own hands in these situations. Are you all that fucking retarded? Why are you even trying to justify this? Is it because you want to appear all 'intellectual and righteous'? It makes no sense and you look retarded.

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I find myself on the fence here. I agree with those saying there's no need to murder someone posing an immediate threat, but then again, is that even possible to determine with a suicide bomber?

Even if he was unconscious, if you could clearly see he had explosives at his disposal, you'd have no way of knowing when he'd regain consciousness, or what he'd do once he did. Furthermore, the officer is probably not trained to appropriately secure the explosive device, so he'd be taking a risk by just waiting.

Then there's the issue that he was planning to kill himself anyway, so shooting him changes nothing, other than the potential loss of innocent lives, even if that potential is very small.

On second thought, I'm not so sure I'm on the fence anymore.

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this was a documentary on HBO, I forgot the name, all I know was all the people they interviewed had annoying accents and were ugly as fuck..

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thanks for that buddy. Keep up the good work

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playing in school, my motto toward the other children was always: "when you strap bomb to self, you get shot"